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Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:56 am
That's right, when I type an address, and I want to put the "@" in it, Which , on my swiss french keyboard is AltGr + 2, all that happens is that the junk mailbox opens. Normally the shortcut.is Ctrl+2, which works as well, but it's VERY annoying no being able to type the @ in an address :-) Is there some ini filethat can be edited with these shortcuts ?
Ok, I can use the ASCII code ( ALT + 064) but that's not a good solution.

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Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:24 pm
Simon, when you add US English keyboard layout via:
Control Panel/Region and Language/Keyboards and Languages/Change Keyboards/Add > English (US) > OK
Make your current Swiss-French keyboard as default.
Assign keyboard shortcut switch via Advanced Key Settings tab, say Left Alt + Shift. Left Alt + Shift is assigned automatically on Windows 7.
Close all settings dialogs with OK, notice the Language indicator on Windows taskbar.

Now, start Pandora, compose new message, click on To field, and switch the keyboard to English (US). Type @ and test other characters.
Hit F6 or click on body text, switch to Swiss keyboard, and type accented Swiss-French letters.

Any issues? Would that work for you?
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Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:54 am
Of course that would work for me, but I don't want to go back and forth between 2 keyboards, because I'll forget I switched one time, and I type y instead of z and that's not a solution for me. I want to use my Swiss french keyboard all the time, your solution is a "band-aid on a wooden leg" as we say in French ;-)it is a workaround, but that's not what I want. I want to type @ and have @ coming in the address, not the junk folder opening, that's it....
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Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:43 am
Of course it's a crutch/band aid, but it's a clean work-around until something better comes along, to quote Weird Al.
There will be (at least) one dedicated update related to international keyboard layouts, accessibility, local hot-keys.
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Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:36 pm
I posted about the same problem a few days ago. Sorry, I didn't realize there already was a thread going.
https://pandoramail.forumotion.net/t121-newbie-questions#438

If I understand what I read in this thread right, there is no solution ATM but there is one coming. Can you give us a hint about when that is likely to happen? If there's just a short delay I can copy-paste for a while, but if it's many months or years away, not so fun.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:44 am
Correct, you'll be able to assign local keyboard-shortcuts for all commands/menus. It'll be under Settings/Toolbar and Commands.

The important prerequisite for that is coming up next, that is - fully owner drawn menus. [Starting with version 3.7 we'll be able to chose Windows theme file (for Pandora only).] So hot-keys will be there in version 3.9 or 4.x. It's months, not years thought.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:08 am
Thank you. Is it like 2-3 months or more like 11-12 though? Smile

If it's likely to be less than half a year, I think I'm in. Webmail isn't fun either. The problem is I'm reluctant to start to download from all accounts and move mailboxes and so on if I'm not sure Pandora is a keeper.
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Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:57 pm
I caved and payed for the license. I trust your word the keyboard issue will be fixed. But PLEASE, PLEASE make it sooner rather than later. It's really annoying. But apart from that I'm very pleased with what I've seen so far. You've done a great job with Pandora. Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:36 pm
Good, thank you.
We are looking at 4-6 months period, feel free send us a feedback via Help/Send Feedback/Report a Bug menu, anything specific to Swiss-French layout. If there is anything fundamentally different from Swiss-Deutsch layout (which will be used for testing) let us know.
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Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:04 pm
You mean if Swedish layout differs from Swiss-French? It must. I posted an image above of Swedish layout above. CTRL + whatever should be safe if it could be stopped from being triggered by CTRL + ALT and ALT GR.
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Mon May 10, 2021 11:01 pm
This is resolved now, Pandora is no longer ignorant of Alt Gr.
Version 3.68
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Tue May 11, 2021 2:52 am
I was happy to receive the notification about this and downloaded the latest version. But the problem remains. Except now the Junk folder opens when I type @. Previously it was Trash. But I can remember wrong about that.
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Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 am
Oh, OK. Alt Gr does work. But CTRL+ALT does not. Will it ever? One without the other is rather pointless.
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Sun May 16, 2021 7:15 pm
Yeah, try use Right Ctrl + Alt if you can.
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Mon May 17, 2021 1:53 am
Do  you mean Ctrl+Alt on the right side of the keyboard? There is no ALT key on the right side, only on the left side.

The point isn't I specifically want to use ALT. If I need to trigger that combination with my left hand. I don't want to relearn typing and remember I need to do things backwards when using a single program...

I need to use Ctrl+Alt with my left hand for the following characters {[]}\, all of which I type a lot of, believe it or not.
For @£$ I use my right hand and Alt Gr, which seems to work fine now.

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Mon May 17, 2021 11:39 pm
No, you can use Left Alt always. When you are using Alt Gr + Ctrl + [key], you have to use Right Ctrl.

Left Alt + Ctrl + [key] is fine.

However, unrelated to Alt Gr issue - right now you can't use Ctrl + Alt + [0/1/2/3]. Starting with the next release that'll be gone too.
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Tue May 18, 2021 4:40 am
Please... If I was a cop in an old movie I could only use my index fingers to type with I might do that. Very Happy

But that's OK if it's going to be fixed soon. I can wait a little longer. Hope we won't have to wait another year though. I'm beginning to get used to write email in my text editor and paste it into Pandora. Smile

Please don't take this is whining. I'm very pleased with Pandora otherwise. It's just that typing is sort of essential to an email client.
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Wed May 26, 2021 8:30 am
It is essential, text editors have to be smooth/"soft under hand", at least my aim.
It's all done now, you can upgrade.
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